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Thinkpad21
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 Posted:
Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server for another
server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line for several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an Exch 5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of their
Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site with them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File server
and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time, where severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour servers to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the licensing costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same can be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all, it would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments, hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
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Bharat Suneja
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:
Re: Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain domain for
that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server for
another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line for several
weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an Exch 5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of their
Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site with
them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File server
and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time, where
severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour servers
to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the licensing
costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same can be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all, it would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments, hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
--
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Thinkpad21
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:
Re: Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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Well, I need to find exactly how to configure it, not just the option, but
also make sure messages are not NDR'd after couple of days, but actually
stay in the queue until the server comes back online...
Thanks !!!
--
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:O$oipJr9FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain domain for
that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Of4TLVq9FHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server for
another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line for
several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an Exch
5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of their
Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site with
them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File server
and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time, where
severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour servers
to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the licensing
costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same can be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all, it
would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments, hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
--
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Bharat Suneja
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:
Re: Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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SMTP Virtual Server properties | Delivery | Expiration Timeout. You can set
this to any number of days you want, and can also change the retry
intervals.
In hub and spoke where spoke is going to be offline for long periods, you
most likely will have the spoke in its own Routing Group. Create a new SMTP
Virtual Server (using a different IP address than the one your default SMTP
VS is bound to). Change the Expiration Timeout and Retry intervals. Create a
new Routing Group Connector to connect to the spoke Routing Group. Use the
new SMTP VS as a Bridgehead. (Will also need to create the RGC the other
way, from spoke to the hub).
Won't need to set up ETRN in this case. When the spoke server comes up and
both bridgeheads can talk, messages will be delivered at the next retry
interval.
To make sure the hub's normal outbound smtp mail is not routed over the new
SMTP VS you can create a SMTP Connector with address space * (if it doesn't
already exist) and use the default SMTP VS.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uYEyKvr9FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Well, I need to find exactly how to configure it, not just the option, but
also make sure messages are not NDR'd after couple of days, but actually
stay in the queue until the server comes back online...
Thanks !!!
--
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:O$oipJr9FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain domain for
that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Of4TLVq9FHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server for
another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line for
several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an Exch
5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of their
Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site with
them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File
server and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time, where
severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour
servers to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the licensing
costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same can
be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all, it
would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments, hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
--
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Thinkpad21
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:34 am Post subject:
Re: Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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Thanks, that helps allot,
But I need to go a step further, here is the theoretical config I need to
do, and wondering how it would be done technically :
All the site are part of the same international network (Equant), and when
the tours move, the actual server IP is always the same, just the ISP router
that changes and all sites have unrestricted network access to each other
( Netowork cloud ) so don't need to transit trough the HQ...
So what I want to do, is have a message from a spoke site to another spoke
site go trough the network, without actually going to the HQ Exchange FE or
BE servers, but if the target site is down, then, the originating site
should send the message to an Exchange server on the HQ and this HQ server
will need to keep the message until the destination site comes back online
( within max 50 days ).
Right now in Ex 5.5, all messages transit trough HQ, but a network problem
at HQ could impact all site to site email transport !
So I might need two sets of SMTP connectors with different costs, but
wondering how to make it choose one or the other depending if the
destination site is down or not ???
Thanks !!!
--
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"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:ercY%23As9FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | SMTP Virtual Server properties | Delivery | Expiration Timeout. You can
set this to any number of days you want, and can also change the retry
intervals.
In hub and spoke where spoke is going to be offline for long periods, you
most likely will have the spoke in its own Routing Group. Create a new
SMTP Virtual Server (using a different IP address than the one your
default SMTP VS is bound to). Change the Expiration Timeout and Retry
intervals. Create a new Routing Group Connector to connect to the spoke
Routing Group. Use the new SMTP VS as a Bridgehead. (Will also need to
create the RGC the other way, from spoke to the hub).
Won't need to set up ETRN in this case. When the spoke server comes up and
both bridgeheads can talk, messages will be delivered at the next retry
interval.
To make sure the hub's normal outbound smtp mail is not routed over the
new SMTP VS you can create a SMTP Connector with address space * (if it
doesn't already exist) and use the default SMTP VS.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uYEyKvr9FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Well, I need to find exactly how to configure it, not just the option,
but also make sure messages are not NDR'd after couple of days, but
actually stay in the queue until the server comes back online...
Thanks !!!
--
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:O$oipJr9FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain domain for
that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Of4TLVq9FHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server for
another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line for
several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an Exch
5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of their
Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site with
them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File
server and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time, where
severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour
servers to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the licensing
costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same can
be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all, it
would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments, hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
--
--
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Thinkpad21
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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Yeah...
That's was also what I was wondering, since all SMTP address space will be
the same !!!
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:OjHWMR19FHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Do all Routing Groups have the same SMTP address space (domain.com?)
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O0vGrju9FHA.360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Thanks, that helps allot,
But I need to go a step further, here is the theoretical config I need to
do, and wondering how it would be done technically :
All the site are part of the same international network (Equant), and
when the tours move, the actual server IP is always the same, just the
ISP router that changes and all sites have unrestricted network access to
each other ( Netowork cloud ) so don't need to transit trough the HQ...
So what I want to do, is have a message from a spoke site to another
spoke site go trough the network, without actually going to the HQ
Exchange FE or BE servers, but if the target site is down, then, the
originating site should send the message to an Exchange server on the HQ
and this HQ server will need to keep the message until the destination
site comes back online ( within max 50 days ).
Right now in Ex 5.5, all messages transit trough HQ, but a network
problem at HQ could impact all site to site email transport !
So I might need two sets of SMTP connectors with different costs, but
wondering how to make it choose one or the other depending if the
destination site is down or not ???
Thanks !!!
--
--
---
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:ercY%23As9FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
SMTP Virtual Server properties | Delivery | Expiration Timeout. You can
set this to any number of days you want, and can also change the retry
intervals.
In hub and spoke where spoke is going to be offline for long periods,
you most likely will have the spoke in its own Routing Group. Create a
new SMTP Virtual Server (using a different IP address than the one your
default SMTP VS is bound to). Change the Expiration Timeout and Retry
intervals. Create a new Routing Group Connector to connect to the spoke
Routing Group. Use the new SMTP VS as a Bridgehead. (Will also need to
create the RGC the other way, from spoke to the hub).
Won't need to set up ETRN in this case. When the spoke server comes up
and both bridgeheads can talk, messages will be delivered at the next
retry interval.
To make sure the hub's normal outbound smtp mail is not routed over the
new SMTP VS you can create a SMTP Connector with address space * (if it
doesn't already exist) and use the default SMTP VS.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uYEyKvr9FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Well, I need to find exactly how to configure it, not just the option,
but also make sure messages are not NDR'd after couple of days, but
actually stay in the queue until the server comes back online...
Thanks !!!
--
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:O$oipJr9FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain domain
for that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Of4TLVq9FHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server for
another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line for
several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an
Exch 5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of their
Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site
with them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File
server and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time, where
severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour
servers to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the licensing
costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same
can be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it
before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all, it
would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments,
hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
--
--
---
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Bharat Suneja
Guest
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| Posted:
Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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Do all Routing Groups have the same SMTP address space (domain.com?)
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O0vGrju9FHA.360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Thanks, that helps allot,
But I need to go a step further, here is the theoretical config I need to
do, and wondering how it would be done technically :
All the site are part of the same international network (Equant), and when
the tours move, the actual server IP is always the same, just the ISP
router that changes and all sites have unrestricted network access to each
other ( Netowork cloud ) so don't need to transit trough the HQ...
So what I want to do, is have a message from a spoke site to another spoke
site go trough the network, without actually going to the HQ Exchange FE
or BE servers, but if the target site is down, then, the originating site
should send the message to an Exchange server on the HQ and this HQ server
will need to keep the message until the destination site comes back online
( within max 50 days ).
Right now in Ex 5.5, all messages transit trough HQ, but a network problem
at HQ could impact all site to site email transport !
So I might need two sets of SMTP connectors with different costs, but
wondering how to make it choose one or the other depending if the
destination site is down or not ???
Thanks !!!
--
--
---
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:ercY%23As9FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
SMTP Virtual Server properties | Delivery | Expiration Timeout. You can
set this to any number of days you want, and can also change the retry
intervals.
In hub and spoke where spoke is going to be offline for long periods, you
most likely will have the spoke in its own Routing Group. Create a new
SMTP Virtual Server (using a different IP address than the one your
default SMTP VS is bound to). Change the Expiration Timeout and Retry
intervals. Create a new Routing Group Connector to connect to the spoke
Routing Group. Use the new SMTP VS as a Bridgehead. (Will also need to
create the RGC the other way, from spoke to the hub).
Won't need to set up ETRN in this case. When the spoke server comes up
and both bridgeheads can talk, messages will be delivered at the next
retry interval.
To make sure the hub's normal outbound smtp mail is not routed over the
new SMTP VS you can create a SMTP Connector with address space * (if it
doesn't already exist) and use the default SMTP VS.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uYEyKvr9FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Well, I need to find exactly how to configure it, not just the option,
but also make sure messages are not NDR'd after couple of days, but
actually stay in the queue until the server comes back online...
Thanks !!!
--
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:O$oipJr9FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain domain
for that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Of4TLVq9FHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server for
another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line for
several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an Exch
5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of their
Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site
with them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File
server and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time, where
severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour
servers to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the licensing
costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same can
be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it
before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all, it
would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments,
hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
--
--
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Bharat Suneja
Guest
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| Posted:
Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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For simple Routing Group Connectors you don't need to worry about the SMTP
address space... but to do the kind of routing you want to do, you'll need
to generate additional SMTP email addresses for each site you want to
connect your "roaming Routing Group to."
- Generate email addresses for site2 = site2.domain.com (and so on for other
sites)
- Now you can create SMTP connectors instead of Routing Group Connectors.
- The lower cost one connects to site2 bridgehead for address space
site2.domain.com
- Another SMTP Connector with higher cost connects to HQ bridgehead for same
address space (site2.domain.com)
- Now if your roaming site can't deliver to site2, it will route to HQ.
- HQ will send to Site2 when it has connectivity (assuming HQ already has a
Connector to get to Site2)
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Oub8Y319FHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Yeah...
That's was also what I was wondering, since all SMTP address space will be
the same !!!
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:OjHWMR19FHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Do all Routing Groups have the same SMTP address space (domain.com?)
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O0vGrju9FHA.360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Thanks, that helps allot,
But I need to go a step further, here is the theoretical config I need
to do, and wondering how it would be done technically :
All the site are part of the same international network (Equant), and
when the tours move, the actual server IP is always the same, just the
ISP router that changes and all sites have unrestricted network access
to each other ( Netowork cloud ) so don't need to transit trough the
HQ...
So what I want to do, is have a message from a spoke site to another
spoke site go trough the network, without actually going to the HQ
Exchange FE or BE servers, but if the target site is down, then, the
originating site should send the message to an Exchange server on the HQ
and this HQ server will need to keep the message until the destination
site comes back online ( within max 50 days ).
Right now in Ex 5.5, all messages transit trough HQ, but a network
problem at HQ could impact all site to site email transport !
So I might need two sets of SMTP connectors with different costs, but
wondering how to make it choose one or the other depending if the
destination site is down or not ???
Thanks !!!
--
--
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"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:ercY%23As9FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
SMTP Virtual Server properties | Delivery | Expiration Timeout. You can
set this to any number of days you want, and can also change the retry
intervals.
In hub and spoke where spoke is going to be offline for long periods,
you most likely will have the spoke in its own Routing Group. Create a
new SMTP Virtual Server (using a different IP address than the one your
default SMTP VS is bound to). Change the Expiration Timeout and Retry
intervals. Create a new Routing Group Connector to connect to the spoke
Routing Group. Use the new SMTP VS as a Bridgehead. (Will also need to
create the RGC the other way, from spoke to the hub).
Won't need to set up ETRN in this case. When the spoke server comes up
and both bridgeheads can talk, messages will be delivered at the next
retry interval.
To make sure the hub's normal outbound smtp mail is not routed over the
new SMTP VS you can create a SMTP Connector with address space * (if it
doesn't already exist) and use the default SMTP VS.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
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"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uYEyKvr9FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Well, I need to find exactly how to configure it, not just the option,
but also make sure messages are not NDR'd after couple of days, but
actually stay in the queue until the server comes back online...
Thanks !!!
--
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"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:O$oipJr9FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain domain
for that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Of4TLVq9FHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server for
another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line for
several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an
Exch 5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of their
Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site
with them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File
server and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time,
where severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour
servers to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the
licensing costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same
can be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it
before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all, it
would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments,
hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
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Thinkpad21
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:
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When you say generate an SMTP for each site, you mean I should have a
Recipient policy for each site, with an additional secondary SMTP addressee
that would be for ex: @site.domain.com ??? so each user will have this
secondary SMTP address ???
Thanks !!!
--
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"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:eudS5E29FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | For simple Routing Group Connectors you don't need to worry about the SMTP
address space... but to do the kind of routing you want to do, you'll need
to generate additional SMTP email addresses for each site you want to
connect your "roaming Routing Group to."
- Generate email addresses for site2 = site2.domain.com (and so on for
other sites)
- Now you can create SMTP connectors instead of Routing Group Connectors.
- The lower cost one connects to site2 bridgehead for address space
site2.domain.com
- Another SMTP Connector with higher cost connects to HQ bridgehead for
same address space (site2.domain.com)
- Now if your roaming site can't deliver to site2, it will route to HQ.
- HQ will send to Site2 when it has connectivity (assuming HQ already has
a Connector to get to Site2)
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Oub8Y319FHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Yeah...
That's was also what I was wondering, since all SMTP address space will
be the same !!!
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:OjHWMR19FHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Do all Routing Groups have the same SMTP address space (domain.com?)
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O0vGrju9FHA.360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Thanks, that helps allot,
But I need to go a step further, here is the theoretical config I need
to do, and wondering how it would be done technically :
All the site are part of the same international network (Equant), and
when the tours move, the actual server IP is always the same, just the
ISP router that changes and all sites have unrestricted network access
to each other ( Netowork cloud ) so don't need to transit trough the
HQ...
So what I want to do, is have a message from a spoke site to another
spoke site go trough the network, without actually going to the HQ
Exchange FE or BE servers, but if the target site is down, then, the
originating site should send the message to an Exchange server on the
HQ and this HQ server will need to keep the message until the
destination site comes back online ( within max 50 days ).
Right now in Ex 5.5, all messages transit trough HQ, but a network
problem at HQ could impact all site to site email transport !
So I might need two sets of SMTP connectors with different costs, but
wondering how to make it choose one or the other depending if the
destination site is down or not ???
Thanks !!!
--
--
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"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:ercY%23As9FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
SMTP Virtual Server properties | Delivery | Expiration Timeout. You
can set this to any number of days you want, and can also change the
retry intervals.
In hub and spoke where spoke is going to be offline for long periods,
you most likely will have the spoke in its own Routing Group. Create a
new SMTP Virtual Server (using a different IP address than the one
your default SMTP VS is bound to). Change the Expiration Timeout and
Retry intervals. Create a new Routing Group Connector to connect to
the spoke Routing Group. Use the new SMTP VS as a Bridgehead. (Will
also need to create the RGC the other way, from spoke to the hub).
Won't need to set up ETRN in this case. When the spoke server comes up
and both bridgeheads can talk, messages will be delivered at the next
retry interval.
To make sure the hub's normal outbound smtp mail is not routed over
the new SMTP VS you can create a SMTP Connector with address space *
(if it doesn't already exist) and use the default SMTP VS.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uYEyKvr9FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Well, I need to find exactly how to configure it, not just the
option, but also make sure messages are not NDR'd after couple of
days, but actually stay in the queue until the server comes back
online...
Thanks !!!
--
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:O$oipJr9FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain domain
for that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Of4TLVq9FHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server
for another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line
for several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an
Exch 5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of
their Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site
with them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File
server and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time,
where severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour
servers to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the
licensing costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same
can be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it
before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all,
it would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments,
hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
--
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Bharat Suneja
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Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Exchange servers down for several days or weeks |
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Correct...
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e0dPPJ29FHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | When you say generate an SMTP for each site, you mean I should have a
Recipient policy for each site, with an additional secondary SMTP
addressee that would be for ex: @site.domain.com ??? so each user will
have this secondary SMTP address ???
Thanks !!!
--
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:eudS5E29FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
For simple Routing Group Connectors you don't need to worry about the
SMTP address space... but to do the kind of routing you want to do,
you'll need to generate additional SMTP email addresses for each site you
want to connect your "roaming Routing Group to."
- Generate email addresses for site2 = site2.domain.com (and so on for
other sites)
- Now you can create SMTP connectors instead of Routing Group Connectors.
- The lower cost one connects to site2 bridgehead for address space
site2.domain.com
- Another SMTP Connector with higher cost connects to HQ bridgehead for
same address space (site2.domain.com)
- Now if your roaming site can't deliver to site2, it will route to HQ.
- HQ will send to Site2 when it has connectivity (assuming HQ already has
a Connector to get to Site2)
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Oub8Y319FHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Yeah...
That's was also what I was wondering, since all SMTP address space will
be the same !!!
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:OjHWMR19FHA.1988@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Do all Routing Groups have the same SMTP address space (domain.com?)
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O0vGrju9FHA.360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Thanks, that helps allot,
But I need to go a step further, here is the theoretical config I need
to do, and wondering how it would be done technically :
All the site are part of the same international network (Equant), and
when the tours move, the actual server IP is always the same, just the
ISP router that changes and all sites have unrestricted network access
to each other ( Netowork cloud ) so don't need to transit trough the
HQ...
So what I want to do, is have a message from a spoke site to another
spoke site go trough the network, without actually going to the HQ
Exchange FE or BE servers, but if the target site is down, then, the
originating site should send the message to an Exchange server on the
HQ and this HQ server will need to keep the message until the
destination site comes back online ( within max 50 days ).
Right now in Ex 5.5, all messages transit trough HQ, but a network
problem at HQ could impact all site to site email transport !
So I might need two sets of SMTP connectors with different costs, but
wondering how to make it choose one or the other depending if the
destination site is down or not ???
Thanks !!!
--
--
---
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:ercY%23As9FHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
SMTP Virtual Server properties | Delivery | Expiration Timeout. You
can set this to any number of days you want, and can also change the
retry intervals.
In hub and spoke where spoke is going to be offline for long periods,
you most likely will have the spoke in its own Routing Group. Create
a new SMTP Virtual Server (using a different IP address than the one
your default SMTP VS is bound to). Change the Expiration Timeout and
Retry intervals. Create a new Routing Group Connector to connect to
the spoke Routing Group. Use the new SMTP VS as a Bridgehead. (Will
also need to create the RGC the other way, from spoke to the hub).
Won't need to set up ETRN in this case. When the spoke server comes
up and both bridgeheads can talk, messages will be delivered at the
next retry interval.
To make sure the hub's normal outbound smtp mail is not routed over
the new SMTP VS you can create a SMTP Connector with address space *
(if it doesn't already exist) and use the default SMTP VS.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uYEyKvr9FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Well, I need to find exactly how to configure it, not just the
option, but also make sure messages are not NDR'd after couple of
days, but actually stay in the queue until the server comes back
online...
Thanks !!!
--
--
"Bharat Suneja" <bharatsuneja@no.spam.org> wrote in message
news:O$oipJr9FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
You can use ETRN with SMTP.
You can configure SMTP servers to queue up mail for a certain
domain for that long.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------
"Thinkpad21" <thinkpad21@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Of4TLVq9FHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
Is there a way to accumulate messages in an Exchange 2003 server
for another server in a hub-spoke config, if the spoke is off-line
for several weeks ???
Here is the situation :
I'm doing an architecture review of an Ex2K3 deployment ( from an
Exch 5.5
org ), the particular thing about this client is, that half of
their Exchange 5.5
sites are actual tours that move around the world, and stay only
about 6 weeks at each location ( brining the hole LAN of that site
with them
in the process, the Lan has it's own Win2K3 DC, Exchange 5.5, File
server and etc...)
Each time they move, they have about 5 to 45 days of dark time,
where severs
are in a box and off-line
In the 5.5 org, they were using X400 with Etrn calls for the tour
servers to
come get the email retained at the HQ...
Do not want to use X400 connectors for this, because of the
licensing costs
( Enterprise is needed and SMTP is the future ), Wondering if same
can be
done with the SMTP connector...( think so, but haven't done it
before )
P.S. Consolidation is not an option yet, since WAN links and all,
it would
have been the best scenario, but not yet...
If anyone has done this, I would really appreciate any comments,
hints,
documents, or anything on this...
Thanks !!!
--
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