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DaveF
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:35 pm    Post subject: Exchange 2003 Service Statup Type: automatic or manual? Reply with quote
We're running an Exchange 2003 virtual server on a two node windows server
2003 cluster. The startup type on the exchange services is set to automatic
on both nodes of the cluster. We have just finished the intial setup and
configuration and everything seems to be running fine. However, on boot up
of either node, the event log records several exchange services stopping
because the "cluster is shutting down". But once the cluster service comes
up and runs, the exchange services start and run fine.

We're thinking about changing the startup type for the exchange services to
manual on both nodes of the cluster to eliminate the errors in the event log.
Is this a good idea?? What's the best practice?? The KB wasnt too helpful
on this subject.

Thanks,
Dave

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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Exchange 2003 Service Statup Type: automatic or manual? Reply with quote
Clustered services should be set to manual on every node. The cluster
service will start them when the group is brought online. The Exchange
install configures all Exchange services to manual. I would strongly
recommend changing them on both nodes to manual.

That should take care of your problem, but I would love to know how they got
changed to automatic in the first place.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"DaveF" <DaveF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
We're running an Exchange 2003 virtual server on a two node windows server
2003 cluster. The startup type on the exchange services is set to
automatic
on both nodes of the cluster. We have just finished the intial setup and
configuration and everything seems to be running fine. However, on boot
up
of either node, the event log records several exchange services stopping
because the "cluster is shutting down". But once the cluster service
comes
up and runs, the exchange services start and run fine.

We're thinking about changing the startup type for the exchange services
to
manual on both nodes of the cluster to eliminate the errors in the event
log.
Is this a good idea?? What's the best practice?? The KB wasnt too
helpful
on this subject.

Thanks,
Dave
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Mark Langer
Guest
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:49 pm    Post subject: RE: Exchange 2003 Service Statup Type: automatic or manual? Reply with quote
Hi Dave,

if you install Exchange-Server on a cluster, all services are set to
"manual" by dafault, because all services are managed by the cluster-service.
They have to be set to "manual". If you need POP3/IMAP4-Services you've got
to install both services manually after the Ex2k3-Installation and set the
starttype to "manually".

Hope it helps,
Mark Langer


"DaveF" wrote:

Quote:
We're running an Exchange 2003 virtual server on a two node windows server
2003 cluster. The startup type on the exchange services is set to automatic
on both nodes of the cluster. We have just finished the intial setup and
configuration and everything seems to be running fine. However, on boot up
of either node, the event log records several exchange services stopping
because the "cluster is shutting down". But once the cluster service comes
up and runs, the exchange services start and run fine.

We're thinking about changing the startup type for the exchange services to
manual on both nodes of the cluster to eliminate the errors in the event log.
Is this a good idea?? What's the best practice?? The KB wasnt too helpful
on this subject.

Thanks,
Dave


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DaveF
Guest
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Exchange 2003 Service Statup Type: automatic or manual? Reply with quote
Hi Rod,

Thanks for the answer!!! You confirmed what we were suspecting.

And... I'm gonna tell you how the services got set to automatiic. MS has
published the "Windows Server 2003 Security Guide" that outlines how to setup
and configure security for Server 2003. This guide has recommendations for
OU structure and security templates that can be applied to the OUs. There is
a companion "Exchange Server 2003 Security Hardening Guide" that has
recommendations for securing Exchange Server with associated security
templates. The templates included with this guide set the exchange services
to automatic. But of course, they dont take into account a _clustered_
exchange server and we applied all the appropriate templates to the OU where
the cluster resides. So... now we'll go and modify the templates for the
clustered environment and set the services to manual. Security and clusters
together make for interesting work.

Thanks again,
Dave

"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
Clustered services should be set to manual on every node. The cluster
service will start them when the group is brought online. The Exchange
install configures all Exchange services to manual. I would strongly
recommend changing them on both nodes to manual.

That should take care of your problem, but I would love to know how they got
changed to automatic in the first place.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"DaveF" <DaveF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DB5CD2BB-EC05-4290-BE57-B04547D12F60@microsoft.com...
We're running an Exchange 2003 virtual server on a two node windows server
2003 cluster. The startup type on the exchange services is set to
automatic
on both nodes of the cluster. We have just finished the intial setup and
configuration and everything seems to be running fine. However, on boot
up
of either node, the event log records several exchange services stopping
because the "cluster is shutting down". But once the cluster service
comes
up and runs, the exchange services start and run fine.

We're thinking about changing the startup type for the exchange services
to
manual on both nodes of the cluster to eliminate the errors in the event
log.
Is this a good idea?? What's the best practice?? The KB wasnt too
helpful
on this subject.

Thanks,
Dave


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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Guest
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Exchange 2003 Service Statup Type: automatic or manual? Reply with quote
Excellent. Thanks for posting what happened.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"DaveF" <DaveF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:961B0A83-01E1-445E-91E7-B0CBFCCAEB95@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi Rod,

Thanks for the answer!!! You confirmed what we were suspecting.

And... I'm gonna tell you how the services got set to automatiic. MS has
published the "Windows Server 2003 Security Guide" that outlines how to
setup
and configure security for Server 2003. This guide has recommendations
for
OU structure and security templates that can be applied to the OUs. There
is
a companion "Exchange Server 2003 Security Hardening Guide" that has
recommendations for securing Exchange Server with associated security
templates. The templates included with this guide set the exchange
services
to automatic. But of course, they dont take into account a _clustered_
exchange server and we applied all the appropriate templates to the OU
where
the cluster resides. So... now we'll go and modify the templates for the
clustered environment and set the services to manual. Security and
clusters
together make for interesting work.

Thanks again,
Dave

"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" wrote:

Clustered services should be set to manual on every node. The cluster
service will start them when the group is brought online. The Exchange
install configures all Exchange services to manual. I would strongly
recommend changing them on both nodes to manual.

That should take care of your problem, but I would love to know how they
got
changed to automatic in the first place.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"DaveF" <DaveF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DB5CD2BB-EC05-4290-BE57-B04547D12F60@microsoft.com...
We're running an Exchange 2003 virtual server on a two node windows
server
2003 cluster. The startup type on the exchange services is set to
automatic
on both nodes of the cluster. We have just finished the intial setup
and
configuration and everything seems to be running fine. However, on
boot
up
of either node, the event log records several exchange services
stopping
because the "cluster is shutting down". But once the cluster service
comes
up and runs, the exchange services start and run fine.

We're thinking about changing the startup type for the exchange
services
to
manual on both nodes of the cluster to eliminate the errors in the
event
log.
Is this a good idea?? What's the best practice?? The KB wasnt too
helpful
on this subject.

Thanks,
Dave


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Fred Woodbridge
Guest
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Exchange 2003 Service Statup Type: automatic or manual? Reply with quote
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" <rod@die.spam.die.nw-america.com> wrote in
news:O9HpK3EuEHA.272@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

Quote:
Clustered services should be set to manual on every node. The cluster
service will start them when the group is brought online. The Exchange
install configures all Exchange services to manual. I would strongly
recommend changing them on both nodes to manual.

Rod (if I may),

You have been consistent in answering questions posed to this group, thanks
a whole lot! I too was wondering about this very subject and there doesn't
seem to be much information available ... that I can find, anyway.

Thanks again!

FW
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Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Guest
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: Exchange 2003 Service Statup Type: automatic or manual? Reply with quote
It's the default behavior for almost everything installed that is cluster
aware. As Mark pointed out, NNTP & IMAP4/POP3 services in Exchange are
disabled by default, but all the others SHOULD be set to manual.

I know I have read about this somewhere, but for the life of me I can't
remember. It is Friday here in Alabama, and that could explain why!

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog

"Fred Woodbridge" <fwoodbridge@adm.idaho.gov> wrote in message
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Quote:
"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" <rod@die.spam.die.nw-america.com> wrote in
news:O9HpK3EuEHA.272@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

Clustered services should be set to manual on every node. The cluster
service will start them when the group is brought online. The Exchange
install configures all Exchange services to manual. I would strongly
recommend changing them on both nodes to manual.

Rod (if I may),

You have been consistent in answering questions posed to this group,
thanks
a whole lot! I too was wondering about this very subject and there
doesn't
seem to be much information available ... that I can find, anyway.

Thanks again!

FW
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