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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Hardware for 1000+ people Reply with quote

Looking to move from Ex2K to Ex2K3 on new hardware.

I currently have over 1000 mailboxes on Ex2K, database currently around 45GB
in one storage group, another 5GB in public folders. OS = RAID 1, DB + Logs
= RAID 5 (5 x 10Ks). Originally the 5 disks were setup as 2 for Logs and 3
for DB, but as the DB grew there was no choice but to increase the RAID 5 to
5 disks as funding wasn't available. I mention this as the server runs
poorly when our users decide to send 25MB+ emails around.

To improve performance and allow for growth I am proposing the following :-

Dell 2850 - 2 x 3G XEON, 4G RAM
OS = 2 x 36G 15K (RAID 1)
LOGS = 2 x 36G 15K (RAID 1) (Logs are currently only a few GB per day)

PowerVault
DB = 9 x 72G 15K (RAID 0+1) (9th disk as standby)

The MS documentation seems to steer away from RAID 5 due to write penalties
(eg below link)

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/StoragePerformance/049faa66-321e-433f-8df8-083e52e7ae5e.mspx

I've also had a look at HPs sizing tool.

As part of the migration I intend to introduce at least a second storage
group keep each one below 30GB.

Interested in anyones views on the suitability of this new hardware. One
area I'm yet to finalise is the controllers and channels. I'm assuming that
I can use two channels on the internal controller on the 2850, one for OS
disks, two for Log disks), and I can install an additional PERC controller
for the RAID 0+1 array. For the 0+1 array should all the 9 disks be one one
channel, or should each side of the mirror be on its own channel ?

Thanks for your time.

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Mick
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: Hardware for 1000+ people Reply with quote

Speaking to my Dell representative they advise that the bus can be split in
the 2850 giving each RAID-1 set its own channel. For the RAID 0+1 located in
the storage chasis their advice is to have all 9 disks on one channel.
Splitting the RAID 0+1 into two and putting each on its own channel would
not make a measurable improvement in their opinion, I'd also need a standby
disk on each channel and it would decrease my expansion capabilities.

I now can see my manager asking why I need a server with 13 disks in it ;-)

"Mick" <mick377_1[remove]@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kGaie.8$j74.613@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
Quote:
Looking to move from Ex2K to Ex2K3 on new hardware.

I currently have over 1000 mailboxes on Ex2K, database currently around
45GB
in one storage group, another 5GB in public folders. OS = RAID 1, DB +
Logs
= RAID 5 (5 x 10Ks). Originally the 5 disks were setup as 2 for Logs and 3
for DB, but as the DB grew there was no choice but to increase the RAID 5
to
5 disks as funding wasn't available. I mention this as the server runs
poorly when our users decide to send 25MB+ emails around.

To improve performance and allow for growth I am proposing the following
:-

Dell 2850 - 2 x 3G XEON, 4G RAM
OS = 2 x 36G 15K (RAID 1)
LOGS = 2 x 36G 15K (RAID 1) (Logs are currently only a few GB per day)

PowerVault
DB = 9 x 72G 15K (RAID 0+1) (9th disk as standby)

The MS documentation seems to steer away from RAID 5 due to write
penalties
(eg below link)


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/guides/StoragePerformance/049faa66-321e-433f-8df8-083e52e7ae5e.mspx

I've also had a look at HPs sizing tool.

As part of the migration I intend to introduce at least a second storage
group keep each one below 30GB.

Interested in anyones views on the suitability of this new hardware. One
area I'm yet to finalise is the controllers and channels. I'm assuming
that
I can use two channels on the internal controller on the 2850, one for OS
disks, two for Log disks), and I can install an additional PERC controller
for the RAID 0+1 array. For the 0+1 array should all the 9 disks be one
one
channel, or should each side of the mirror be on its own channel ?

Thanks for your time.


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