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JoeS
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:41 am Post subject:
active sync - direct push/autd |
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Hi,
I am trying to setup MS Active sync and direct push/autd.
AUTD is the direct push right - that is where it converts smtp messages to
sms?
I have the default settings checked in the esm - global settings - mobile
settings on exchange 2003 - windows 2003, both sp's are latest with all
patches.
I can get active sync working with a schedule - 5, 10, 20 minutes, but the
always up to date isn't working
The devices are HP Ipaq 6510's.
any ideas?
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Rich Matheisen [MVP]
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:58 am Post subject:
Re: active sync - direct push/autd |
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"JoeS" <JoeS@joesnotreal.com> wrote:
| Quote: | so what is the msfp?
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Messaging and Security Feature Pack.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/business/5/default.mspx
| Quote: | I have this article and it appears that ms is
basically saying that direct push is autd?
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They can say what they like, I suppose.
| Quote: | http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/autd.mspx#EWD
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The screenshot is from Exchange 2003, pre-SP2. The "Direct push"
checkbox isn't even shown there. :)
| Quote: | I tried changing the address to the specific text message address of the
handheld and set it on the handheld and it doesn't work still?
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Did you use ActiveSync after you made that change? The device has to
register with Exchange.
| Quote: | so what is the difference in direct push vs autd vs active sync?
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AUTD uses SMTP/SMS. Direct Push uses (or will use) HTTP.
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MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
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JoeS
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:58 am Post subject:
Re: active sync - direct push/autd |
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Also, isn't this article the same thing:
avid Lemson a group program manager for the Exchange team talks about the
design and inner workings of Exchange Direct Push. What is Exchange Direct
Push? It's what MS marketing has rebrandeed AUTD (Always Up To Date), the
system by which Exchange "pushes" data to your phone. ...
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| Quote: | so what is the msfp? I have this article and it appears that ms is
basically saying that direct push is autd?
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/autd.mspx#EWD
I tried changing the address to the specific text message address of the
handheld and set it on the handheld and it doesn't work still?
so what is the difference in direct push vs autd vs active sync?
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"JoeS" <JoeS@joesnotreal.com> wrote:
I am trying to setup MS Active sync and direct push/autd.
Unless you've found some way to get the MSFP from your carrier/OEM
onto your device you can't use "direct push".
AUTD is the direct push right
No.
- that is where it converts smtp messages to sms?
Exchange sends a SMTP message to your devices "text" address. The
carrier turns it into SMS and sends it to your device,
I have the default settings checked in the esm - global settings - mobile
settings on exchange 2003 - windows 2003, both sp's are latest with all
patches.
I can get active sync working with a schedule - 5, 10, 20 minutes, but
the
always up to date isn't working
The devices are HP Ipaq 6510's.
any ideas?
You have the wrong device address in the ActiveSync configuration?
--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
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JoeS
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:58 am Post subject:
Re: active sync - direct push/autd |
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so what is the msfp? I have this article and it appears that ms is
basically saying that direct push is autd?
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/autd.mspx#EWD
I tried changing the address to the specific text message address of the
handheld and set it on the handheld and it doesn't work still?
so what is the difference in direct push vs autd vs active sync?
"Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> wrote in message
news:ua6vp1de3d49kdsddu7n8gkc6kda3m8lfm@4ax.com...
| Quote: | "JoeS" <JoeS@joesnotreal.com> wrote:
I am trying to setup MS Active sync and direct push/autd.
Unless you've found some way to get the MSFP from your carrier/OEM
onto your device you can't use "direct push".
AUTD is the direct push right
No.
- that is where it converts smtp messages to sms?
Exchange sends a SMTP message to your devices "text" address. The
carrier turns it into SMS and sends it to your device,
I have the default settings checked in the esm - global settings - mobile
settings on exchange 2003 - windows 2003, both sp's are latest with all
patches.
I can get active sync working with a schedule - 5, 10, 20 minutes, but the
always up to date isn't working
The devices are HP Ipaq 6510's.
any ideas?
You have the wrong device address in the ActiveSync configuration?
--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
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Rich Matheisen [MVP]
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:58 am Post subject:
Re: active sync - direct push/autd |
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"JoeS" <JoeS@joesnotreal.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am trying to setup MS Active sync and direct push/autd.
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Unless you've found some way to get the MSFP from your carrier/OEM
onto your device you can't use "direct push".
| Quote: | AUTD is the direct push right
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No.
| Quote: | - that is where it converts smtp messages to sms?
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Exchange sends a SMTP message to your devices "text" address. The
carrier turns it into SMS and sends it to your device,
| Quote: | I have the default settings checked in the esm - global settings - mobile
settings on exchange 2003 - windows 2003, both sp's are latest with all
patches.
I can get active sync working with a schedule - 5, 10, 20 minutes, but the
always up to date isn't working
The devices are HP Ipaq 6510's.
any ideas?
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You have the wrong device address in the ActiveSync configuration?
--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
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JoeS
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:
Re: active sync - direct push/autd |
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Thanks Rich,
I have enabled logging now and I notice the messages are sent to the
cingular.com domain but they never reach the handhelds.
I found this article but this hotfix should have been applied in sp2 for ex
which I am running.
I have tried adding in the mobile carrier under mobile properties on the
server and also doing a user defined address on the handheld. I also did
run activesync after the changes.
I did make the regkey change on the server noted in the hotfix - does that
matter? It doesn't say a reboot is required?
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| Quote: | "JoeS" <JoeS@joesnotreal.com> wrote:
so what is the msfp?
Messaging and Security Feature Pack.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/business/5/default.mspx
I have this article and it appears that ms is
basically saying that direct push is autd?
They can say what they like, I suppose.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/autd.mspx#EWD
The screenshot is from Exchange 2003, pre-SP2. The "Direct push"
checkbox isn't even shown there. :)
I tried changing the address to the specific text message address of the
handheld and set it on the handheld and it doesn't work still?
Did you use ActiveSync after you made that change? The device has to
register with Exchange.
so what is the difference in direct push vs autd vs active sync?
AUTD uses SMTP/SMS. Direct Push uses (or will use) HTTP.
--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
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Rich Matheisen [MVP]
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:59 am Post subject:
Re: active sync - direct push/autd |
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"JoeS" <JoeS@joesnotreal.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I have enabled logging now and I notice the messages are sent to the
cingular.com domain but they never reach the handhelds.
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There's not much anyone here can help with that. It may be your
calling plan that lacks the options necesary to do this.
| Quote: | I found this article but this hotfix should have been applied in sp2 for ex
which I am running.
I have tried adding in the mobile carrier under mobile properties on the
server and also doing a user defined address on the handheld. I also did
run activesync after the changes.
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If you see the mesages leaving Exchange and they're addressed
correctly, then it's time to call you carrier and find out what you
need to do to make it work. Good luck with that!
| Quote: | I did make the regkey change on the server noted in the hotfix - does that
matter? It doesn't say a reboot is required?
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What "hotfix" might that be?
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Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
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Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:59 am Post subject:
Re: active sync - direct push/autd |
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Make sure you download and try out the AUTD Troubleshooting Tool at
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7718A338-A9F5-43D6-9E20-141189283C82&displaylang=en
and test the email connectivity. It may have been a typo, but above you
said "cingular.com". I am pretty sure the SMTP address for cingular
phones is "mycingular.com" or something like that.
Rich, the hotfix he is talking about was a hotfix for 2003 that allows
the admin to set a reg key containing a FROM address for the SMTP
messages that get sent to the device, because some carriers block
messages at their gateway that do not include a from address.
Karl |
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