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Thread: Help with RPC over HTTP and requests for Credentials

  1. #1
    Daren DiClaudio Guest

    Help with RPC over HTTP and requests for Credentials

    Alright,

    I have this set up at about 25 total locations, 20 of which are working
    flawlessly. The other 5... well please let me know if you can help!

    I have each location logging into a domain accross a VPN. I have implemented
    RPC over HTTP to minimize the load on the VPN equipment. The issue is that
    at 5 of these sites, they keep asking for the logon credentials when you go
    into Exchange.

    I have installed the certificate from the server, I have made sure that the
    terminals are using credentials that have not expired. If I allow the
    terminals to connect using the normal RPC method that would require the use
    of the VPN it works fine, I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out this
    issue.

    I suspect it has something to do with a registry setting or other
    configuration issue that I have not been able to find i the last month or
    so. I have experience with setting this up correctly, but there is something
    else wrong.

    Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.I have searched the newsgroups
    for possible answers to my issue and the posted responces to previous
    questions did not resolve my issue.

    Again, thank you for your help.

    Daren

  2. #2
    Tim Hackbart [MSFT] Guest
    Daren

    What are the Proxy/Web Access differences from the 5 locations that do not
    work?

    I have seen that in locations that require you to provide authentication to
    a Web Proxy to access the Internet, this will cause Rpc over Http to fail.
    So check to see if these locations have Web Proxies that require
    authentication.

    Also make sure that you can access OWA using SSL from these locations, that
    will ensure that you have a good SSL and TCP connection to the Web Server.

    My guess is that it is a Web Proxy Authentication issue, and currently there
    is no workaround except to modify the web proxy to NOT prompt for
    credentials.

    Let me know if this helps.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:uykL4DZ#EHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Alright,

    I have this set up at about 25 total locations, 20 of which are working
    flawlessly. The other 5... well please let me know if you can help!

    I have each location logging into a domain accross a VPN. I have
    implemented
    RPC over HTTP to minimize the load on the VPN equipment. The issue is that
    at 5 of these sites, they keep asking for the logon credentials when you
    go
    into Exchange.

    I have installed the certificate from the server, I have made sure that
    the
    terminals are using credentials that have not expired. If I allow the
    terminals to connect using the normal RPC method that would require the
    use
    of the VPN it works fine, I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out
    this
    issue.

    I suspect it has something to do with a registry setting or other
    configuration issue that I have not been able to find i the last month or
    so. I have experience with setting this up correctly, but there is
    something
    else wrong.

    Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.I have searched the newsgroups
    for possible answers to my issue and the posted responces to previous
    questions did not resolve my issue.

    Again, thank you for your help.

    Daren



  3. #3
    Daren DiClaudio Guest
    They do not use a proxy of any sort.

    Each location has a direct connection to the internet through a transparent
    firewall and connects to a public IP address for their server cia a DSL line
    at each location.. It is as direct as you can go.

    They can use OWA and I have installed the certificate and added the FQDN
    into the trusted internet sites catagory in IE's security (that is how I set
    up the 20 other sites).

    I have researched this to death, I cannot seem to find what could be causing
    the issue. The only thing I can guess is that there is some obscure registry
    setting that is affecting the use of the current credentials (they are still
    logging into the domain via the VPN).

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks you.


    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:ulPNUca%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Daren

    What are the Proxy/Web Access differences from the 5 locations that do not
    work?

    I have seen that in locations that require you to provide authentication
    to
    a Web Proxy to access the Internet, this will cause Rpc over Http to fail.
    So check to see if these locations have Web Proxies that require
    authentication.

    Also make sure that you can access OWA using SSL from these locations,
    that
    will ensure that you have a good SSL and TCP connection to the Web Server.

    My guess is that it is a Web Proxy Authentication issue, and currently
    there
    is no workaround except to modify the web proxy to NOT prompt for
    credentials.

    Let me know if this helps.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:uykL4DZ#EHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Alright,

    I have this set up at about 25 total locations, 20 of which are working
    flawlessly. The other 5... well please let me know if you can help!

    I have each location logging into a domain accross a VPN. I have
    implemented
    RPC over HTTP to minimize the load on the VPN equipment. The issue is
    that
    at 5 of these sites, they keep asking for the logon credentials when you
    go
    into Exchange.

    I have installed the certificate from the server, I have made sure that
    the
    terminals are using credentials that have not expired. If I allow the
    terminals to connect using the normal RPC method that would require the
    use
    of the VPN it works fine, I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out
    this
    issue.

    I suspect it has something to do with a registry setting or other
    configuration issue that I have not been able to find i the last month or
    so. I have experience with setting this up correctly, but there is
    something
    else wrong.

    Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.I have searched the
    newsgroups
    for possible answers to my issue and the posted responces to previous
    questions did not resolve my issue.

    Again, thank you for your help.

    Daren





  4. #4
    Tim Hackbart [MSFT] Guest
    What are your Authentication settings on the RPC virtual Directory in the
    ISM.

    Also what are your settings in Outlook 2003 for Authentication.

    How far do you get into the Outlook session?
    If you launch Outlook with \rpcdiag switch, what do you see in the
    connection status dialog box?
    827330 How to troubleshoot client RPC over HTTP connection issues in Office
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=827330

    I am curious if we are getting past the RPC Proxy Server and then the
    Exchange Server is the one that does not like your Credentials.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:#1SaRpb#EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    They do not use a proxy of any sort.

    Each location has a direct connection to the internet through a
    transparent
    firewall and connects to a public IP address for their server cia a DSL
    line
    at each location.. It is as direct as you can go.

    They can use OWA and I have installed the certificate and added the FQDN
    into the trusted internet sites catagory in IE's security (that is how I
    set
    up the 20 other sites).

    I have researched this to death, I cannot seem to find what could be
    causing
    the issue. The only thing I can guess is that there is some obscure
    registry
    setting that is affecting the use of the current credentials (they are
    still
    logging into the domain via the VPN).

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks you.


    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:ulPNUca%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Daren

    What are the Proxy/Web Access differences from the 5 locations that do
    not
    work?

    I have seen that in locations that require you to provide authentication
    to
    a Web Proxy to access the Internet, this will cause Rpc over Http to
    fail.
    So check to see if these locations have Web Proxies that require
    authentication.

    Also make sure that you can access OWA using SSL from these locations,
    that
    will ensure that you have a good SSL and TCP connection to the Web
    Server.

    My guess is that it is a Web Proxy Authentication issue, and currently
    there
    is no workaround except to modify the web proxy to NOT prompt for
    credentials.

    Let me know if this helps.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:uykL4DZ#EHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Alright,

    I have this set up at about 25 total locations, 20 of which are working
    flawlessly. The other 5... well please let me know if you can help!

    I have each location logging into a domain accross a VPN. I have
    implemented
    RPC over HTTP to minimize the load on the VPN equipment. The issue is
    that
    at 5 of these sites, they keep asking for the logon credentials when
    you
    go
    into Exchange.

    I have installed the certificate from the server, I have made sure that
    the
    terminals are using credentials that have not expired. If I allow the
    terminals to connect using the normal RPC method that would require the
    use
    of the VPN it works fine, I am pulling my hair out trying to figure out
    this
    issue.

    I suspect it has something to do with a registry setting or other
    configuration issue that I have not been able to find i the last month
    or
    so. I have experience with setting this up correctly, but there is
    something
    else wrong.

    Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.I have searched the
    newsgroups
    for possible answers to my issue and the posted responces to previous
    questions did not resolve my issue.

    Again, thank you for your help.

    Daren







  5. #5
    Daren DiClaudio Guest
    I will get you more info a little later, but as soon as I try to connect to
    the server is when it asks. I can run outlook in offline mode just fine.

    I use NTLM authentication at all my sites (eventhough RPC over HTTP requires
    SSL I still like having the added protection) The server and clients are all
    set up to accept NTLM Authentication. I tried using Basic Auth as a tshoot
    measure but it didn't change the request for username/password (which if I
    manually supply it, outlook connects without a problem).

    Just a little frusterating :-)




    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:uqJEevb%23EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    What are your Authentication settings on the RPC virtual Directory in the
    ISM.

    Also what are your settings in Outlook 2003 for Authentication.

    How far do you get into the Outlook session?
    If you launch Outlook with \rpcdiag switch, what do you see in the
    connection status dialog box?
    827330 How to troubleshoot client RPC over HTTP connection issues in
    Office
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=827330

    I am curious if we are getting past the RPC Proxy Server and then the
    Exchange Server is the one that does not like your Credentials.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:#1SaRpb#EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

    They do not use a proxy of any sort.

    Each location has a direct connection to the internet through a
    transparent
    firewall and connects to a public IP address for their server cia a DSL
    line
    at each location.. It is as direct as you can go.

    They can use OWA and I have installed the certificate and added the FQDN
    into the trusted internet sites catagory in IE's security (that is how I
    set
    up the 20 other sites).

    I have researched this to death, I cannot seem to find what could be
    causing
    the issue. The only thing I can guess is that there is some obscure
    registry
    setting that is affecting the use of the current credentials (they are
    still
    logging into the domain via the VPN).

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks you.


    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:ulPNUca%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Daren

    What are the Proxy/Web Access differences from the 5 locations that do
    not
    work?

    I have seen that in locations that require you to provide
    authentication
    to
    a Web Proxy to access the Internet, this will cause Rpc over Http to
    fail.
    So check to see if these locations have Web Proxies that require
    authentication.

    Also make sure that you can access OWA using SSL from these locations,
    that
    will ensure that you have a good SSL and TCP connection to the Web
    Server.

    My guess is that it is a Web Proxy Authentication issue, and currently
    there
    is no workaround except to modify the web proxy to NOT prompt for
    credentials.

    Let me know if this helps.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:uykL4DZ#EHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Alright,

    I have this set up at about 25 total locations, 20 of which are
    working
    flawlessly. The other 5... well please let me know if you can help!

    I have each location logging into a domain accross a VPN. I have
    implemented
    RPC over HTTP to minimize the load on the VPN equipment. The issue is
    that
    at 5 of these sites, they keep asking for the logon credentials when
    you
    go
    into Exchange.

    I have installed the certificate from the server, I have made sure
    that
    the
    terminals are using credentials that have not expired. If I allow the
    terminals to connect using the normal RPC method that would require
    the
    use
    of the VPN it works fine, I am pulling my hair out trying to figure
    out
    this
    issue.

    I suspect it has something to do with a registry setting or other
    configuration issue that I have not been able to find i the last month
    or
    so. I have experience with setting this up correctly, but there is
    something
    else wrong.

    Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.I have searched the
    newsgroups
    for possible answers to my issue and the posted responces to previous
    questions did not resolve my issue.

    Again, thank you for your help.

    Daren









  6. #6
    Tim Hackbart [MSFT] Guest
    Ok, I gotcha..

    So you can connect when you supply the correct credentials, I thought you
    were NOT able to connect, even after supplying credentials.

    In that case I do think it may be an issue with the VPN and the Domain
    Authentication interacting with both the Auth on the RPC Virtual Directory
    and Auth for Exchange.

    Setting Outlook and RPC to use Basic Auth will of course prompt you for
    credentials, then it should work,

    I have seen that using Basic Authentication is by far the most robust
    solution, and the one we use here at Microsoft. Using NTLM with VPN can
    cause issues as we are not totally in charge of the credentials that are
    sent. I have seen where the incorrect credentials are sent using NTLM, so
    we go to Basic only on the RPC Virtual Directory, then Always Prompt and
    only use NTLM on the Ol2003 client, and that works. You will be prompted,
    but then you are totally in charge of the credentials sent to the server.


    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:ea0mL0b#EHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    I will get you more info a little later, but as soon as I try to connect
    to
    the server is when it asks. I can run outlook in offline mode just fine.

    I use NTLM authentication at all my sites (eventhough RPC over HTTP
    requires
    SSL I still like having the added protection) The server and clients are
    all
    set up to accept NTLM Authentication. I tried using Basic Auth as a tshoot
    measure but it didn't change the request for username/password (which if I
    manually supply it, outlook connects without a problem).

    Just a little frusterating :-)




    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:uqJEevb%23EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    What are your Authentication settings on the RPC virtual Directory in
    the
    ISM.

    Also what are your settings in Outlook 2003 for Authentication.

    How far do you get into the Outlook session?
    If you launch Outlook with \rpcdiag switch, what do you see in the
    connection status dialog box?
    827330 How to troubleshoot client RPC over HTTP connection issues in
    Office
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=827330

    I am curious if we are getting past the RPC Proxy Server and then the
    Exchange Server is the one that does not like your Credentials.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:#1SaRpb#EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

    They do not use a proxy of any sort.

    Each location has a direct connection to the internet through a
    transparent
    firewall and connects to a public IP address for their server cia a DSL
    line
    at each location.. It is as direct as you can go.

    They can use OWA and I have installed the certificate and added the
    FQDN
    into the trusted internet sites catagory in IE's security (that is how
    I
    set
    up the 20 other sites).

    I have researched this to death, I cannot seem to find what could be
    causing
    the issue. The only thing I can guess is that there is some obscure
    registry
    setting that is affecting the use of the current credentials (they are
    still
    logging into the domain via the VPN).

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks you.


    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:ulPNUca%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Daren

    What are the Proxy/Web Access differences from the 5 locations that
    do
    not
    work?

    I have seen that in locations that require you to provide
    authentication
    to
    a Web Proxy to access the Internet, this will cause Rpc over Http to
    fail.
    So check to see if these locations have Web Proxies that require
    authentication.

    Also make sure that you can access OWA using SSL from these
    locations,
    that
    will ensure that you have a good SSL and TCP connection to the Web
    Server.

    My guess is that it is a Web Proxy Authentication issue, and
    currently
    there
    is no workaround except to modify the web proxy to NOT prompt for
    credentials.

    Let me know if this helps.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:uykL4DZ#EHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Alright,

    I have this set up at about 25 total locations, 20 of which are
    working
    flawlessly. The other 5... well please let me know if you can help!

    I have each location logging into a domain accross a VPN. I have
    implemented
    RPC over HTTP to minimize the load on the VPN equipment. The issue
    is
    that
    at 5 of these sites, they keep asking for the logon credentials when
    you
    go
    into Exchange.

    I have installed the certificate from the server, I have made sure
    that
    the
    terminals are using credentials that have not expired. If I allow
    the
    terminals to connect using the normal RPC method that would require
    the
    use
    of the VPN it works fine, I am pulling my hair out trying to figure
    out
    this
    issue.

    I suspect it has something to do with a registry setting or other
    configuration issue that I have not been able to find i the last
    month
    or
    so. I have experience with setting this up correctly, but there is
    something
    else wrong.

    Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.I have searched the
    newsgroups
    for possible answers to my issue and the posted responces to
    previous
    questions did not resolve my issue.

    Again, thank you for your help.

    Daren











  7. #7
    Daren DiClaudio Guest
    Strange, they why do the 20 other sites I am working with not prompt me?

    I have taken the vpn offline at the store I am currently working on to make
    sure all traffic runs throught the RPC over HTTP setup. I have done this to
    another store that is working without prompting for the password as well, to
    test the functionality of RPC over HTTP and making sure the store is not
    reliant upon the VPN being up to have the ability to interact with their
    mail. It works great at the "test" store, but still prompts me at the
    "problem" store.

    My goal is to not prompt for credentials. That is another reason I am using
    NTLM Auth instead of Basic. I am 99% sure it is an issue on the client
    machine becuase the other stores do not have to provide their passwords to
    connect.

    I am confused as to why using NTLM auth over a VPN would cause issues? The
    VPN equipment we use is transparent and the client machine can talk directly
    to the internal IP Address of the Domain Controller. When using RPC over
    HTTP, the client machine will just connect to the public IP address that
    belongs to the mail cunstions of the Domain Controller and run the RPC
    conmands over the HTTPS tunnel... or at least that is how I thought it was
    working at the other stores.

    Any idea why this is one of only 5 stores that are exhibiting this behavior?
    All 25 stores have XP SP2, MS Office 2003 SBS edition with all the updates
    applied, and do not rely on the VPN to interact with their e-mail. Just 5 of
    those stores keeps prompting for a password.

    Hehe, I am almost bald from this problem :-P

    Thanks for your help, I appreciate that someone is responding to my posts.

    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:eBe3QEc%23EHA.2596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    Ok, I gotcha..

    So you can connect when you supply the correct credentials, I thought you
    were NOT able to connect, even after supplying credentials.

    In that case I do think it may be an issue with the VPN and the Domain
    Authentication interacting with both the Auth on the RPC Virtual Directory
    and Auth for Exchange.

    Setting Outlook and RPC to use Basic Auth will of course prompt you for
    credentials, then it should work,

    I have seen that using Basic Authentication is by far the most robust
    solution, and the one we use here at Microsoft. Using NTLM with VPN can
    cause issues as we are not totally in charge of the credentials that are
    sent. I have seen where the incorrect credentials are sent using NTLM, so
    we go to Basic only on the RPC Virtual Directory, then Always Prompt and
    only use NTLM on the Ol2003 client, and that works. You will be prompted,
    but then you are totally in charge of the credentials sent to the server.


    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:ea0mL0b#EHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

    I will get you more info a little later, but as soon as I try to connect
    to
    the server is when it asks. I can run outlook in offline mode just fine.

    I use NTLM authentication at all my sites (eventhough RPC over HTTP
    requires
    SSL I still like having the added protection) The server and clients are
    all
    set up to accept NTLM Authentication. I tried using Basic Auth as a
    tshoot
    measure but it didn't change the request for username/password (which if
    I
    manually supply it, outlook connects without a problem).

    Just a little frusterating :-)




    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:uqJEevb%23EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    What are your Authentication settings on the RPC virtual Directory in
    the
    ISM.

    Also what are your settings in Outlook 2003 for Authentication.

    How far do you get into the Outlook session?
    If you launch Outlook with \rpcdiag switch, what do you see in the
    connection status dialog box?
    827330 How to troubleshoot client RPC over HTTP connection issues in
    Office
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=827330

    I am curious if we are getting past the RPC Proxy Server and then the
    Exchange Server is the one that does not like your Credentials.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:#1SaRpb#EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

    They do not use a proxy of any sort.

    Each location has a direct connection to the internet through a
    transparent
    firewall and connects to a public IP address for their server cia a
    DSL
    line
    at each location.. It is as direct as you can go.

    They can use OWA and I have installed the certificate and added the
    FQDN
    into the trusted internet sites catagory in IE's security (that is how
    I
    set
    up the 20 other sites).

    I have researched this to death, I cannot seem to find what could be
    causing
    the issue. The only thing I can guess is that there is some obscure
    registry
    setting that is affecting the use of the current credentials (they are
    still
    logging into the domain via the VPN).

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks you.


    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:ulPNUca%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Daren

    What are the Proxy/Web Access differences from the 5 locations that
    do
    not
    work?

    I have seen that in locations that require you to provide
    authentication
    to
    a Web Proxy to access the Internet, this will cause Rpc over Http to
    fail.
    So check to see if these locations have Web Proxies that require
    authentication.

    Also make sure that you can access OWA using SSL from these
    locations,
    that
    will ensure that you have a good SSL and TCP connection to the Web
    Server.

    My guess is that it is a Web Proxy Authentication issue, and
    currently
    there
    is no workaround except to modify the web proxy to NOT prompt for
    credentials.

    Let me know if this helps.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
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    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:uykL4DZ#EHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Alright,

    I have this set up at about 25 total locations, 20 of which are
    working
    flawlessly. The other 5... well please let me know if you can help!

    I have each location logging into a domain accross a VPN. I have
    implemented
    RPC over HTTP to minimize the load on the VPN equipment. The issue
    is
    that
    at 5 of these sites, they keep asking for the logon credentials
    when
    you
    go
    into Exchange.

    I have installed the certificate from the server, I have made sure
    that
    the
    terminals are using credentials that have not expired. If I allow
    the
    terminals to connect using the normal RPC method that would require
    the
    use
    of the VPN it works fine, I am pulling my hair out trying to figure
    out
    this
    issue.

    I suspect it has something to do with a registry setting or other
    configuration issue that I have not been able to find i the last
    month
    or
    so. I have experience with setting this up correctly, but there is
    something
    else wrong.

    Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.I have searched the
    newsgroups
    for possible answers to my issue and the posted responces to
    previous
    questions did not resolve my issue.

    Again, thank you for your help.

    Daren













  8. #8
    Tim Hackbart [MSFT] Guest
    Can you see any differences between the stores at all?
    Are they the exact same VPN clients, exact same internet connection etc?

    The other thing to look at is where the prompt is coming from.
    You could check the event logs on the RPC Proxy Server and then on the Back
    End Server to see if we have any issues there.
    You could also check the IISlogs on the RPC Proxy server to see what error
    codes we are getting back.

    I am not aware of any registry key that would affect this issue, the only
    thing I could think of was something that is different in the environment
    between the two stores.

    One thing to try is to start OL2003 with the /rpcdiag switch, and when you
    get the Authentication prompt, look at the Connection Status box and see if
    we are connecting to a server, or if we are not even showing a server
    connection yet. This may let us know who is prompting, RPC or Exchange.

    Try to figure out if there is any difference at all between the stores as
    far as VPN and internet connection goes, and then where we are being
    prompted

    --
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    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:eDZQbMc#EHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    Strange, they why do the 20 other sites I am working with not prompt me?

    I have taken the vpn offline at the store I am currently working on to
    make
    sure all traffic runs throught the RPC over HTTP setup. I have done this
    to
    another store that is working without prompting for the password as well,
    to
    test the functionality of RPC over HTTP and making sure the store is not
    reliant upon the VPN being up to have the ability to interact with their
    mail. It works great at the "test" store, but still prompts me at the
    "problem" store.

    My goal is to not prompt for credentials. That is another reason I am
    using
    NTLM Auth instead of Basic. I am 99% sure it is an issue on the client
    machine becuase the other stores do not have to provide their passwords to
    connect.

    I am confused as to why using NTLM auth over a VPN would cause issues? The
    VPN equipment we use is transparent and the client machine can talk
    directly
    to the internal IP Address of the Domain Controller. When using RPC over
    HTTP, the client machine will just connect to the public IP address that
    belongs to the mail cunstions of the Domain Controller and run the RPC
    conmands over the HTTPS tunnel... or at least that is how I thought it was
    working at the other stores.

    Any idea why this is one of only 5 stores that are exhibiting this
    behavior?
    All 25 stores have XP SP2, MS Office 2003 SBS edition with all the updates
    applied, and do not rely on the VPN to interact with their e-mail. Just 5
    of
    those stores keeps prompting for a password.

    Hehe, I am almost bald from this problem :-P

    Thanks for your help, I appreciate that someone is responding to my posts.

    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:eBe3QEc%23EHA.2596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    Ok, I gotcha..

    So you can connect when you supply the correct credentials, I thought
    you
    were NOT able to connect, even after supplying credentials.

    In that case I do think it may be an issue with the VPN and the Domain
    Authentication interacting with both the Auth on the RPC Virtual
    Directory
    and Auth for Exchange.

    Setting Outlook and RPC to use Basic Auth will of course prompt you for
    credentials, then it should work,

    I have seen that using Basic Authentication is by far the most robust
    solution, and the one we use here at Microsoft. Using NTLM with VPN can
    cause issues as we are not totally in charge of the credentials that are
    sent. I have seen where the incorrect credentials are sent using NTLM,
    so
    we go to Basic only on the RPC Virtual Directory, then Always Prompt and
    only use NTLM on the Ol2003 client, and that works. You will be
    prompted,
    but then you are totally in charge of the credentials sent to the
    server.


    --
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    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:ea0mL0b#EHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

    I will get you more info a little later, but as soon as I try to
    connect
    to
    the server is when it asks. I can run outlook in offline mode just
    fine.

    I use NTLM authentication at all my sites (eventhough RPC over HTTP
    requires
    SSL I still like having the added protection) The server and clients
    are
    all
    set up to accept NTLM Authentication. I tried using Basic Auth as a
    tshoot
    measure but it didn't change the request for username/password (which
    if
    I
    manually supply it, outlook connects without a problem).

    Just a little frusterating :-)




    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:uqJEevb%23EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    What are your Authentication settings on the RPC virtual Directory in
    the
    ISM.

    Also what are your settings in Outlook 2003 for Authentication.

    How far do you get into the Outlook session?
    If you launch Outlook with \rpcdiag switch, what do you see in the
    connection status dialog box?
    827330 How to troubleshoot client RPC over HTTP connection issues in
    Office
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=827330

    I am curious if we are getting past the RPC Proxy Server and then the
    Exchange Server is the one that does not like your Credentials.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
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    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:#1SaRpb#EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

    They do not use a proxy of any sort.

    Each location has a direct connection to the internet through a
    transparent
    firewall and connects to a public IP address for their server cia a
    DSL
    line
    at each location.. It is as direct as you can go.

    They can use OWA and I have installed the certificate and added the
    FQDN
    into the trusted internet sites catagory in IE's security (that is
    how
    I
    set
    up the 20 other sites).

    I have researched this to death, I cannot seem to find what could be
    causing
    the issue. The only thing I can guess is that there is some obscure
    registry
    setting that is affecting the use of the current credentials (they
    are
    still
    logging into the domain via the VPN).

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks you.


    "Tim Hackbart [MSFT]" <Timhack@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
    message
    news:ulPNUca%23EHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Daren

    What are the Proxy/Web Access differences from the 5 locations
    that
    do
    not
    work?

    I have seen that in locations that require you to provide
    authentication
    to
    a Web Proxy to access the Internet, this will cause Rpc over Http
    to
    fail.
    So check to see if these locations have Web Proxies that require
    authentication.

    Also make sure that you can access OWA using SSL from these
    locations,
    that
    will ensure that you have a good SSL and TCP connection to the Web
    Server.

    My guess is that it is a Web Proxy Authentication issue, and
    currently
    there
    is no workaround except to modify the web proxy to NOT prompt for
    credentials.

    Let me know if this helps.

    --
    Tim Hackbart M.C.S.E.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no
    rights.

    Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for
    newsgroup
    purposes only.

    "Daren DiClaudio" <duomenox@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
    news:uykL4DZ#EHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    Alright,

    I have this set up at about 25 total locations, 20 of which are
    working
    flawlessly. The other 5... well please let me know if you can
    help!

    I have each location logging into a domain accross a VPN. I have
    implemented
    RPC over HTTP to minimize the load on the VPN equipment. The
    issue
    is
    that
    at 5 of these sites, they keep asking for the logon credentials
    when
    you
    go
    into Exchange.

    I have installed the certificate from the server, I have made
    sure
    that
    the
    terminals are using credentials that have not expired. If I allow
    the
    terminals to connect using the normal RPC method that would
    require
    the
    use
    of the VPN it works fine, I am pulling my hair out trying to
    figure
    out
    this
    issue.

    I suspect it has something to do with a registry setting or other
    configuration issue that I have not been able to find i the last
    month
    or
    so. I have experience with setting this up correctly, but there
    is
    something
    else wrong.

    Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.I have searched the
    newsgroups
    for possible answers to my issue and the posted responces to
    previous
    questions did not resolve my issue.

    Again, thank you for your help.

    Daren















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