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  1. #1
    Stu Guest

    no fixed ip addresses

    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my existing isp
    will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from getting a new isp, does
    anyone have any constructive ideas / solutions / configs??

    TIA Stu

  2. #2
    Ole Kristian Bangås Guest
    "Stu" <Stu@spamtrapstu-martin.com> wrote in
    news:e8EyBUA$EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:

    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my
    existing isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from getting a
    new isp, does anyone have any constructive ideas / solutions /
    configs??
    This is the way I've done it:

    I use dnsalias.org to get myself a dynamic dns record that is updated
    frequently, for my case: every five minutes using DirectUpdate. Then I
    have alias (cname) records for the domain name that I use, pointing
    towards the dnsalias.org domain name that I have. Finally, the MX record
    is pointing to one of the domain names that I'm using. An example
    follows behind

    example.dnsalias.org (dynamically updated)

    Then, in the DNS zone file:

    www.example.com IN CNAME example.dnsalias.org
    mail.example.com IN CNMAE example.dnsalias.org

    example.com IN MX 10 mail.example.com

    Note, having a MX record pointing to a CNAME record is not completely by
    the book, but I've never had any troubles with this configuration.

    --
    Ole Kristian Bangås

  3. #3
    Me Guest
    <newbie>How do you get hold of the MX records? Are they supplied when you
    register a domain name?</newbie>

    Woady


    This is the way I've done it:

    I use dnsalias.org to get myself a dynamic dns record that is updated
    frequently, for my case: every five minutes using DirectUpdate. Then I
    have alias (cname) records for the domain name that I use, pointing
    towards the dnsalias.org domain name that I have. Finally, the MX record
    is pointing to one of the domain names that I'm using. An example
    follows behind

    example.dnsalias.org (dynamically updated)

  4. #4
    Ole Kristian Bangås Guest
    "Me" <me@me.com> wrote in news:csejgl$1nr$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk:

    newbie>How do you get hold of the MX records? Are they supplied when
    you register a domain name?</newbie
    Guess that depends. To check (on windows) the status of your mx-records
    (if they at all are set):

    c:\nslookup -type=mx <domain_name>

    For me the MX-record was set up automagically when I registered my
    domain name.

    If the MX-record is not suitable for your needs, you'll need to contact
    the company which registered your domain, or the company that hosts your
    dns-zone.

    --
    Ole Kristian Bangås

  5. #5
    Lardy Guest
    For those times when your server is unavailable you may want some backup...
    http://www.no-ip.com/services.php/mail/backup

    Lardy.


    "Stu" <Stu@spamtrapstu-martin.com> wrote in message
    news:e8EyBUA$EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my existing
    isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from getting a new isp,
    does anyone have any constructive ideas / solutions / configs??

    TIA Stu

  6. #6
    Ole Kristian Bangås Guest
    "Lardy" <thelardmeister@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:41eaf643$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:

    For those times when your server is unavailable you may want some
    backup... http://www.no-ip.com/services.php/mail/backup
    But first of all I would check wether backup MX already is configured. I
    got backup MX for free, and preconfigured, when I bought my domain. In such
    a situation there is no need for wasting money on another backup MX, in my
    opinion.

    --
    Ole Kristian Bangås

  7. #7
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Guest
    Stu wrote:
    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my
    existing isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from getting
    a new isp, does anyone have any constructive ideas / solutions /
    configs??

    TIA Stu
    You can still host your own mail without a static IP - a lot of small
    offices don't have them. Look at www.dyndns.org for one of the many free
    dynamic DNS hosts out there.

    1. Set up an account on their server
    2. Set up yourdomain.dyndns.org (for example)
    3. Download one of the various update clients (runs as a service) such as
    Direct Update and set it to update the appropriate account on the dyndns
    servers (or, if you have a consumer firewall appliance like a
    NetGear/Linksys that supports this directly, enter the appropriate info
    there)
    4. Have your domain's MX record set up as yourdomain.dyndns.org (whomever
    hosts your public DNS does this)
    5. Make sure port 25 is open inbound in your firewall & forwarded to the
    internal IP of the Exchange server

    They also have an inexpensive 'backup mail' service called Mailhop that will
    queue mail & automatically retry delivery to your primary MX record for X
    days in the event that your server is unavailable - I recommend this.

  8. #8
    Ole Kristian Bangås Guest
    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in
    news:eajE7VC$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

    Stu wrote:
    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my
    existing isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from getting
    a new isp, does anyone have any constructive ideas / solutions /
    configs??

    TIA Stu

    You can still host your own mail without a static IP - a lot of small
    offices don't have them. Look at www.dyndns.org for one of the many
    free dynamic DNS hosts out there.

    1. Set up an account on their server
    2. Set up yourdomain.dyndns.org (for example)
    3. Download one of the various update clients (runs as a service) such
    as Direct Update and set it to update the appropriate account on the
    dyndns servers (or, if you have a consumer firewall appliance like a
    NetGear/Linksys that supports this directly, enter the appropriate
    info there)
    4. Have your domain's MX record set up as yourdomain.dyndns.org
    (whomever hosts your public DNS does this)
    5. Make sure port 25 is open inbound in your firewall & forwarded to
    the internal IP of the Exchange server

    They also have an inexpensive 'backup mail' service called Mailhop
    that will queue mail & automatically retry delivery to your primary MX
    record for X days in the event that your server is unavailable - I
    recommend this.
    One more thing, configure smart host for outgoing smtp traffic. There
    are lots of hosts out there that filter smtp traffic coming from dynamic
    IP Series.

    --
    Ole Kristian Bangås

  9. #9
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Guest
    Ole Kristian Bangås wrote:
    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote in
    news:eajE7VC$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

    Stu wrote:
    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my
    existing isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from getting
    a new isp, does anyone have any constructive ideas / solutions /
    configs??

    TIA Stu

    You can still host your own mail without a static IP - a lot of small
    offices don't have them. Look at www.dyndns.org for one of the many
    free dynamic DNS hosts out there.

    1. Set up an account on their server
    2. Set up yourdomain.dyndns.org (for example)
    3. Download one of the various update clients (runs as a service)
    such as Direct Update and set it to update the appropriate account
    on the dyndns servers (or, if you have a consumer firewall appliance
    like a NetGear/Linksys that supports this directly, enter the
    appropriate info there)
    4. Have your domain's MX record set up as yourdomain.dyndns.org
    (whomever hosts your public DNS does this)
    5. Make sure port 25 is open inbound in your firewall & forwarded to
    the internal IP of the Exchange server

    They also have an inexpensive 'backup mail' service called Mailhop
    that will queue mail & automatically retry delivery to your primary
    MX record for X days in the event that your server is unavailable - I
    recommend this.

    One more thing, configure smart host for outgoing smtp traffic. There
    are lots of hosts out there that filter smtp traffic coming from
    dynamic IP Series.
    Yep. Sad, but true.

  10. #10
    Stu Guest
    so you are saying that domains who "fudge" a fixed IP could be seen to be
    spammers perhaps?
    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:%23vx8u8K$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    Ole Kristian Bangås wrote:
    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote in
    news:eajE7VC$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

    Stu wrote:
    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my
    existing isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from getting
    a new isp, does anyone have any constructive ideas / solutions /
    configs??

    TIA Stu

    You can still host your own mail without a static IP - a lot of small
    offices don't have them. Look at www.dyndns.org for one of the many
    free dynamic DNS hosts out there.

    1. Set up an account on their server
    2. Set up yourdomain.dyndns.org (for example)
    3. Download one of the various update clients (runs as a service)
    such as Direct Update and set it to update the appropriate account
    on the dyndns servers (or, if you have a consumer firewall appliance
    like a NetGear/Linksys that supports this directly, enter the
    appropriate info there)
    4. Have your domain's MX record set up as yourdomain.dyndns.org
    (whomever hosts your public DNS does this)
    5. Make sure port 25 is open inbound in your firewall & forwarded to
    the internal IP of the Exchange server

    They also have an inexpensive 'backup mail' service called Mailhop
    that will queue mail & automatically retry delivery to your primary
    MX record for X days in the event that your server is unavailable - I
    recommend this.

    One more thing, configure smart host for outgoing smtp traffic. There
    are lots of hosts out there that filter smtp traffic coming from
    dynamic IP Series.

    Yep. Sad, but true.

  11. #11
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Guest
    Stu wrote:
    so you are saying that domains who "fudge" a fixed IP could be seen
    to be spammers perhaps?
    Fudging? Not sure what you mean. A lot of (overzealous?) admins block IP
    ranges they determine to be dynamic.


    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote in
    message news:%23vx8u8K$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    Ole Kristian Bangås wrote:
    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote in
    news:eajE7VC$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

    Stu wrote:
    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my
    existing isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from
    getting a new isp, does anyone have any constructive ideas /
    solutions / configs??

    TIA Stu

    You can still host your own mail without a static IP - a lot of
    small offices don't have them. Look at www.dyndns.org for one of
    the many free dynamic DNS hosts out there.

    1. Set up an account on their server
    2. Set up yourdomain.dyndns.org (for example)
    3. Download one of the various update clients (runs as a service)
    such as Direct Update and set it to update the appropriate account
    on the dyndns servers (or, if you have a consumer firewall
    appliance like a NetGear/Linksys that supports this directly,
    enter the appropriate info there)
    4. Have your domain's MX record set up as yourdomain.dyndns.org
    (whomever hosts your public DNS does this)
    5. Make sure port 25 is open inbound in your firewall & forwarded
    to the internal IP of the Exchange server

    They also have an inexpensive 'backup mail' service called Mailhop
    that will queue mail & automatically retry delivery to your primary
    MX record for X days in the event that your server is unavailable
    - I recommend this.

    One more thing, configure smart host for outgoing smtp traffic.
    There are lots of hosts out there that filter smtp traffic coming
    from dynamic IP Series.

    Yep. Sad, but true.

  12. #12
    Stu Guest
    I mean is this solution "dynamic" so I could be blocked????


    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:%23mrgDhe$EHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    Stu wrote:
    so you are saying that domains who "fudge" a fixed IP could be seen
    to be spammers perhaps?

    Fudging? Not sure what you mean. A lot of (overzealous?) admins block IP
    ranges they determine to be dynamic.


    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote in
    message news:%23vx8u8K$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    Ole Kristian Bangås wrote:
    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote in
    news:eajE7VC$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

    Stu wrote:
    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my
    existing isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from
    getting a new isp, does anyone have any constructive ideas /
    solutions / configs??

    TIA Stu

    You can still host your own mail without a static IP - a lot of
    small offices don't have them. Look at www.dyndns.org for one of
    the many free dynamic DNS hosts out there.

    1. Set up an account on their server
    2. Set up yourdomain.dyndns.org (for example)
    3. Download one of the various update clients (runs as a service)
    such as Direct Update and set it to update the appropriate account
    on the dyndns servers (or, if you have a consumer firewall
    appliance like a NetGear/Linksys that supports this directly,
    enter the appropriate info there)
    4. Have your domain's MX record set up as yourdomain.dyndns.org
    (whomever hosts your public DNS does this)
    5. Make sure port 25 is open inbound in your firewall & forwarded
    to the internal IP of the Exchange server

    They also have an inexpensive 'backup mail' service called Mailhop
    that will queue mail & automatically retry delivery to your primary
    MX record for X days in the event that your server is unavailable
    - I recommend this.

    One more thing, configure smart host for outgoing smtp traffic.
    There are lots of hosts out there that filter smtp traffic coming
    from dynamic IP Series.

    Yep. Sad, but true.

  13. #13
    Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Guest
    Stu wrote:
    I mean is this solution "dynamic" so I could be blocked????
    I still don't understand exactly what you're asking. If you are on a dynamic
    IP, yes, you could be blocked from sending mail to certain domains/ISPs.

    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote in
    message news:%23mrgDhe$EHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
    Stu wrote:
    so you are saying that domains who "fudge" a fixed IP could be seen
    to be spammers perhaps?

    Fudging? Not sure what you mean. A lot of (overzealous?) admins
    block IP ranges they determine to be dynamic.


    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote in
    message news:%23vx8u8K$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
    Ole Kristian Bangås wrote:
    "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
    lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsoli....atya hoo.com> wrote
    in news:eajE7VC$EHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl:

    Stu wrote:
    I'm looking to install a web & exchange server at home, but my
    existing isp will not provide a fixed ip address. apart from
    getting a new isp, does anyone have any constructive ideas /
    solutions / configs??

    TIA Stu

    You can still host your own mail without a static IP - a lot of
    small offices don't have them. Look at www.dyndns.org for one of
    the many free dynamic DNS hosts out there.

    1. Set up an account on their server
    2. Set up yourdomain.dyndns.org (for example)
    3. Download one of the various update clients (runs as a service)
    such as Direct Update and set it to update the appropriate
    account on the dyndns servers (or, if you have a consumer
    firewall appliance like a NetGear/Linksys that supports this
    directly, enter the appropriate info there)
    4. Have your domain's MX record set up as yourdomain.dyndns.org
    (whomever hosts your public DNS does this)
    5. Make sure port 25 is open inbound in your firewall & forwarded
    to the internal IP of the Exchange server

    They also have an inexpensive 'backup mail' service called
    Mailhop that will queue mail & automatically retry delivery to
    your primary MX record for X days in the event that your server
    is unavailable - I recommend this.

    One more thing, configure smart host for outgoing smtp traffic.
    There are lots of hosts out there that filter smtp traffic coming
    from dynamic IP Series.

    Yep. Sad, but true.

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